While many tech companies race to build ever-larger AI models, IBM CEO Arvind Krishna sees the future differently. Speaking with host Bob Safian before a live audience during New York Tech Week, Krishna explains why enterprises are overcomplicating AI adoption, what kinds of risks leaders should be taking right now, and how to weigh AI&#x27;s costs against its benefits. He also shares why IBM believes quantum computing will reshape the next era of technology.<br>Subscribe to the Masters of Scale weekly newsletter: https://mastersofscale.com/subscribe<br>See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

IBM’s $10 billion bet on what comes after AI

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[SPEAKER_B] I'll say something provocative. I think foundation models are going to become commodities. I think that right now the token price on all of these is going to go way up. Has to, to justify the capital investments.

[SPEAKER_C] That's Arvind Krishna, CEO of IBM, and he has a strong metaphor for current AI systems that are just not the right size for all uses.

[SPEAKER_B] I guess you could, for those in the suburbs, take your kids to school in an 18-wheeler every morning. You could go milk shopping in an 18-wheeler. Then you'd ask yourself, is it really the most effective vehicle for that? I think right now we are using the 18-wheeler for everything.

[SPEAKER_C] This is Masters of Scale. I'm Bob Safian, your host. IBM is playing a distinctive role in the AI race, not building AI models, but betting on how best to use them and on what comes after them. In this conversation recorded in front of a live audience as part of New York Tech Week at IBM's Manhattan H...

IBM’s $10 billion bet on what comes after AI

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IBM’s $10 billion bet on what comes after AI

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Every day you wait, your competitors are findingedge in conversations you're not hearing.

Every day you wait, your competitors are finding
edge in conversations you're not hearing.