Alphabet, Google&#x27;s parent company, has reportedly signed a deal allowing the Pentagon use of its AI for classified purposes. It&#x27;s just one of many recent deals between Silicon Valley tech companies and the US military. Meanwhile, tech company Palantir says future AI warfare is inevitable and is calling on big tech bosses to &quot;participate in the defence of the nation&quot;. Danny Fortson and Katie Prescott discuss this cultural shift, and whether AI is actually making us safer or enabling the rise of the ‘Big Brother’ state. Plus, Julian Cracknell, CTO of defence company BAE Systems, talks about the future of defence and killer robots. Get in touch: techpod@thetimes.co.uk Producer: Marnie Duke Executive Producer: Priyanka Deladia Image: Getty Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

AI in security and defence: is tech making us safer?

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[SPEAKER_B] Hello and welcome to The Times Tech Podcast, where every week we unpack how technology is reshaping business culture and everyday life. I'm Katie Prescott, covering all things tech here in the City of London.

[SPEAKER_A] And I am Danny Fortson out here in Silicon Valley.

[SPEAKER_B] Which is, Danny, the place to be this week. I am so jealous. You are at what I think can only be described as the tech trial of the century, the millennium.

[SPEAKER_A] The millennium.

[SPEAKER_B] Elon Musk versus OpenAI. The beef between them is Elon Musk and Sam Altman co-founded OpenAI, among others. And Elon Musk said, we founded it as a charity and he's turned it into something commercial, in very basic terms.

[SPEAKER_A] [Speaker:DANNY_FORTSON] Yeah, basically, I got bamboozled. I was a prime funder. I put in $38 million to kind of get it off the ground and fund it in its early years. And then they fell out over strategy. Elon Musk left and said, and this is in an email, gave them, quote unquote, exactly zero chance of survival once he left. It was like, yeah. And of course, they went on to very much survive, turn into a for-profit, have a, you know, establish a for-profit subsidiary which is now worth $8...

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