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Will The K-Shaped Economy Destroy America? | Darius Dale

The Pomp Podcast

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**Podcast:** The Pomp Podcast

## Participants

- **Anthony Pompliano** (None)
- **Darius Dale** (42 Macro)

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The job of the Fed is to boil us alive without us hopping out of the pot. If we hop out of the pot, then we have financial stability concerns. And then we have all sorts of issues that cause problems in the real economy and asset markets at the Fed that will be worse than just having, you know, sticky above target inflation. And so, you know, this is the lesser of two evils in the context of the fiscal dynamics that we continue to highlight in the U.S. economy. What's going on, guys? Today we've got a great conversation with Darius Dale. He's here in person. We talk about what's going on at the Federal Reserve. Kevin Walsh stepping into the leadership role.

How you should think about inflation expectations in relationship to actual inflation. What does this mean for your portfolio, for public stocks? Or how should you actually think about the impact of AI? On top of that, we dig into the affordability crisis that is hitting millions and millions of Americans. We talk about some anecdotal examples of exactly what it means. I literally look up live some prices of items that are going to shock you. And Darius explains some of his life experience and where he's actually started to meet people and what he's learned from them. All of that and much more in this conversation with Darius Dale. All right, Darius.

Kevin Walsh now has taken over the control of the Federal Reserve. He's the big dog at the Central Bank. And he seems to want to run the place a little bit different. What's your take on his original press conference and kind of what he's doing differently than his predecessor? Yeah. Look, before we even get started, man, I just want to say thanks for having me. Love this set, man. And his studio is gorgeous. I feel like I'm part of history in here, man. So let's make some history today.

I'll say the first thing I'll tell you is that, you know, we think Kevin Warsh is a dove in hawks clothing. What does that mean? A dove in hawks clothing. Someone who ultimately wants to have easier mone...

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