Host Scott McCartney with Guest Co-Host and Guest Chris Chiames. Topics: The complexity of the Cruise Industry vs Airlines, Working for legendary CEOs. Plus: News from the IATA World Air Transport Summit in Rio de Janeiro; Consumers changing views on travel; Scott Kirby continues to talk about an American takeover; A difficult day at Chicago&#x27;s ORD; Listener input on FAA safety inspection programs, Southwest on-time performance declines while cancellations stay very low.

342 - Scott McCartney with Guest Co-Host and Guest Chris Chiames

Airlines Confidential Podcast

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**Podcast:** Airlines Confidential Podcast

## Participants

- **Scott McCartney** (Airlines Confidential Podcast)
- **Chris Chimes** (Carnival Cruise Lines (guest))
- **Chris Chiames** (Carnival Cruise Lines)

## Transcript

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Welcome to Airlines Confidential. I'm Scott McCartney and this is another special edition of sorts. Today my co-host is a familiar voice to long-time listeners. Chris Chimes is back with us, refreshed and renewed. And today my guest is a familiar voice to long-time listeners. Chris Chimes. Chris retired recently from Carnival Cruise Lines and it's a pleasure to have him back for this episode. I'm looking

forward to talking about his career in airlines, his career in the cruise industry and so much more. Welcome back, Chris. Hey Scott, it's great to be back. To borrow a phrase, I love what you've done to the place with regard to like your new formats, lots of great guest hosts, uh, your listenership way up. So really proud of what's, what's happened with the podcast. I'm sure Ben is very happy as well. And, uh, great to be back with you.

Well, you and Ben and Seth, the really, really laid quite a foundation for Airlines Confidential. Um, it's, it's been a privilege and an honor to, to carry it on and great to have you back. Uh, it really is fun. Uh, okay. We've got news to talk about. We've got a full mailbag and with some interesting questions and comments, and I'm really looking forward to, um, to looking back on, on long career

in this industry with Chris. Well, Scott, that's my cue. So let's get right to the news. Last week, senior airline executives and many others met in Rio de Janeiro for the 82nd IATA annual general meeting. Neither one of us was there, but all reports suggest a fairly subdued meeting. Obviously with world events, things are going to be subdued right now with, um, uncertainty and diminished expectations due to high oil prices being a key theme. I think there were some interesting

economic numbers that came out of IATA though. For starters, IATA director general, Willie Walsh, who will be leading that job soon to go run Indigo in India, estimated that airline fuel bills will increase by 100 billion this year because of the war. That's B billion, B as in boy. That puts oil prices at 70% higher than last year. With that 100 billion in increased fuel costs, IATA's chief

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342 - Scott McCartney with Guest Co-Host and Guest Chris Chiames

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342 - Scott McCartney with Guest Co-Host and Guest Chris Chiames

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Built for investment professionals

Every day you wait, your competitors are findingedge in conversations you're not hearing.

Every day you wait, your competitors are finding
edge in conversations you're not hearing.