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It’s Hard Out Here for a CEO

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You speak to CEOs all the time in your capacity as editor of Bloomberg Businessweek. Is there a vibe shift? Are the CEOs feeling more down than usual? Max, they're tired. The job of CEO has become exhausting due to the chaos of tariffs and the war and oil shocks and, of course, AI and dealing with this White House. The job of CEO, despite the large paycheck, is becoming stressful. I didn't know workers could become tired.

It’s Hard Out Here for a CEO

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The candid version is on a podcast,
not the earnings call.

It’s Hard Out Here for a CEO

Read the full transcript

The candid version is on a podcast, not the earnings call.

The candid version is on a podcast,
not the earnings call.